1 00:00:00,170 --> 00:00:05,910 Hello, I'm calling from the trip. I'd like to confirm a quote. How much money 2 00:00:05,910 --> 00:00:06,629 was involved? 3 00:00:06,630 --> 00:00:07,630 Was it over $1 ,000? 4 00:00:08,310 --> 00:00:09,530 Was it over $10 ,000? 5 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:21,740 They have been punishing each other this way since the opening. 6 00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:55,530 Well, you think I should have our lawyers do it? 7 00:02:56,170 --> 00:02:58,130 I think you should serve on the jury. 8 00:02:59,150 --> 00:03:04,690 Mr. Hume, with all the responsibilities I have... Is it really a matter of your 9 00:03:04,690 --> 00:03:08,070 responsibilities or that it's just a pain in the neck? 10 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:10,470 Now, look, look, look. I used to avoid it, too. 11 00:03:10,830 --> 00:03:15,210 And then one day Marion said, if you and all the people who should be serving on 12 00:03:15,210 --> 00:03:18,550 juries keep ducking out on it, what kind of juries will we be left with? 13 00:03:19,010 --> 00:03:20,890 Twelve people who have nothing better to do. 14 00:03:21,790 --> 00:03:22,790 So I went. 15 00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:25,580 And you know, I think I really got a lot out of it. 16 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:33,720 Mr. Hume, I think you should know that I am 17 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,900 bitterly disappointed in your attitude. 18 00:03:37,740 --> 00:03:40,640 I'd hoped that you'd support my wanting to duck this. 19 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:45,820 Sorry. Come on, Donovan, I gotta get somebody. Don't you think you owe me? 20 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,920 You've never done anything for me in your life. 21 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,640 I will. 22 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:53,320 Rossi, I'd love to have you beholden to me, but the fact of the matter is I just 23 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,320 can't do it tonight. 24 00:03:55,140 --> 00:03:56,140 Can't do what? 25 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Ah, it's my journalism class. 26 00:03:59,260 --> 00:04:00,600 Why are you taking a class? 27 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:02,300 I'm not. 28 00:04:02,740 --> 00:04:03,960 I'm teaching one. 29 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:10,600 Uh, Lou, listen. 30 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,620 You could really help me out here. 31 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,420 See, I'm supposed to deliver two guest speakers, and there's only two weeks 32 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:18,200 in the course, and I haven't come up with anybody yet. 33 00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:19,620 How about it? 34 00:04:22,700 --> 00:04:23,700 Helping me out. 35 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:25,640 Don't you think you're home? 36 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Yes, I do. 37 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,140 More than I can ever repay. 38 00:04:33,460 --> 00:04:34,700 What time do you want me? 39 00:04:36,420 --> 00:04:37,420 Are you kidding? 40 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,760 You're putting me on? 41 00:04:38,940 --> 00:04:39,980 I'd love to do it. 42 00:04:40,380 --> 00:04:44,260 I'd love to slip into my tweed jacket with the leather patches and get out my 43 00:04:44,260 --> 00:04:48,980 pipe and spend the evening discussing the history of journalism with a bunch 44 00:04:48,980 --> 00:04:50,500 impressionable co -eds. 45 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:57,660 Let me have your wallet, keys, comb, or any other metal or sharp objects you 46 00:04:57,660 --> 00:04:58,660 might be carrying. 47 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:03,940 Rossi, do you ever feel a little apprehensive about going in here? 48 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,260 What do you think? They might take us hostage or something? 49 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:08,940 That occurred to me. 50 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,940 Well, don't worry, Lou. The state has a no hostage policy. 51 00:05:12,820 --> 00:05:13,820 Oh, good. 52 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,280 What does that mean? 53 00:05:15,660 --> 00:05:18,360 Did the prisoners all agree they'll never take anybody hostage? 54 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,000 No, but if they ever did, the state will let the hostages die. 55 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,640 before giving in to any of their demands and see the prisoners will know that oh 56 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,080 good 57 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:33,980 we're 58 00:05:33,980 --> 00:05:34,980 on seven thousand 59 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:27,650 All right, if everybody will pass their assignments from last week up to the 60 00:06:27,650 --> 00:06:30,850 front we'll get started Anybody have any problems? 61 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:34,170 Yeah, I had trouble getting out to do the research 62 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:38,390 Anybody seen Morley? 63 00:06:43,150 --> 00:06:46,410 Okay, I know we were supposed to cover interviewing techniques tonight, but 64 00:06:46,410 --> 00:06:47,890 instead we've got something better. 65 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:52,370 We're very fortunate to have my city editor from the Los Angeles Tribune here 66 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:55,110 tonight, so you can try out your interviewing techniques on him. 67 00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:56,610 Lou Grant. 68 00:06:57,030 --> 00:06:58,030 Lou? 69 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:05,050 Thanks, Rosie. 70 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:11,420 I didn't really prepare a lecture. I just thought I'd tell you a little about 71 00:07:11,420 --> 00:07:12,660 job as a newspaper man. 72 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:16,520 Is there something specific that you'd like to ask me? 73 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:24,080 Well, feel free to jump in if you have any questions or if there's something 74 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,080 you'd like to say. 75 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,880 My first experience with newspapers was throwing them from my bike at four in 76 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,420 the morning when the snow was up to here. 77 00:07:34,570 --> 00:07:36,910 I knew then I had to get a job indoors. 78 00:07:43,390 --> 00:07:44,390 All right. 79 00:07:44,850 --> 00:07:49,430 My job as city editor is more than assigning reporters. 80 00:07:51,090 --> 00:07:53,510 I set the tone of the coverage. 81 00:07:54,310 --> 00:07:55,490 Let me give you an example. 82 00:07:56,690 --> 00:07:59,690 Say there was a change of administration here. 83 00:08:00,090 --> 00:08:01,170 How would you cover it? 84 00:08:02,090 --> 00:08:03,410 Who would you talk to first? 85 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Okay. Let me ask the guy who would have to make that decision. 86 00:08:17,060 --> 00:08:18,540 Which one of you is the editor? 87 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Editor? 88 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:24,960 Man, we need an editor around here like we need a travel agent. 89 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:29,320 I'm sorry, I don't understand. 90 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:34,200 You don't need no editor if you don't got no paper. 91 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,020 Mr. Grant, I was the one that set up that newspaper. 92 00:08:42,419 --> 00:08:43,539 So why'd you shut it down? 93 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:44,980 Is that what they told you? 94 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,680 I set up the guidelines for that paper. They decided they couldn't live with 95 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,140 that, and they walked out. What good's a journalism class without a newspaper? 96 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:53,940 Wait a minute, Mr. Grant. 97 00:08:54,460 --> 00:08:58,060 I can tell by the way you're just standing there. You're about ready to 98 00:08:58,060 --> 00:08:59,220 how to run my prison. 99 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,120 See these books? 100 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,360 They're about the history, the theory, and the practice of running prisons. 101 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,440 They don't have the answers. 102 00:09:10,290 --> 00:09:14,790 I've been working in prisons for 16 years, and I don't have the answer. 103 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:20,470 Now, you have been in prison one half hour. 104 00:09:23,130 --> 00:09:25,830 Okay, Mr. Grant, what's the answer? 105 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:31,530 It just seems to me that when you've got a program like this journalism class, 106 00:09:31,650 --> 00:09:32,870 you should follow through on it. 107 00:09:33,130 --> 00:09:35,870 Don't you frustrate the prisoners by not giving them an outlet? 108 00:09:36,270 --> 00:09:38,350 I mean, how are you going to rehabilitate these guys? 109 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,920 This facility is not for rehabilitation. 110 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,780 I don't understand. 111 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,200 I figured as much. 112 00:09:46,220 --> 00:09:49,800 California has a very large penal system. In certain facilities, there are 113 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,820 rehabilitation programs. 114 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Not here. 115 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,300 San Ysidro exists for punishment. 116 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,800 The men in here are not first -time offenders. 117 00:09:58,500 --> 00:09:59,780 So you just write them off? 118 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,020 Are you going to be tough? 119 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,180 Can I give you some background? 120 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,840 Sure. 121 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,060 I got my master's in criminal justice in 63. 122 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:16,320 I worked for a couple of years on the government's commission on penal 123 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,440 When I had a chance to put my theories into practice here, I grabbed it. 124 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:26,140 You see, Mr. Grant, I knew that the old way of running things was wrong. It was 125 00:10:26,140 --> 00:10:27,460 arbitrary and cruel. 126 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 I came in and recognized that inmates had rights. 127 00:10:30,940 --> 00:10:33,160 I wiped out the system of favoritism. 128 00:10:33,620 --> 00:10:34,800 Sounds like a good beginning. 129 00:10:35,020 --> 00:10:37,520 Yeah, it was for a while. 130 00:10:39,020 --> 00:10:40,300 Then all hell broke loose. 131 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,200 You see, the 60s didn't just happen outside prison, Mr. Grant. They happened 132 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,019 here, too. 133 00:10:46,020 --> 00:10:48,580 Blacks became more militant. Violence increased. 134 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,200 There was chaos. 135 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:55,120 I ended up having to inflict punishments harsher than the old -style wardens 136 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,240 just to reestablish order. 137 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:02,560 Well, now, the pendulum has swung back. 138 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:04,580 These are calmer times. 139 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,700 Maybe now's the right time to start up a newspaper. 140 00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:09,460 You could be right. 141 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:10,960 Times have changed. 142 00:11:14,140 --> 00:11:18,220 But anyway, Mr. Rossi's class ends in two weeks. 143 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:24,300 I don't have someone else to come in here and get a newspaper started. 144 00:11:27,780 --> 00:11:28,920 Now, wait a minute. 145 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,020 That isn't what I came here for. 146 00:11:31,220 --> 00:11:33,540 Feel free to borrow as many of these books as you need. 147 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,220 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 148 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:49,060 Mrs. Pinchot, I knew that name was familiar. This is an honor. 149 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,500 You run a very fine newspaper. 150 00:11:51,940 --> 00:11:52,940 Thank you. 151 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:56,680 Did your newspaper publish any articles about the defendant in this case? 152 00:11:57,180 --> 00:11:58,180 Yes, we did. 153 00:11:58,820 --> 00:12:03,220 Did you personally receive any information about the defendant or his 154 00:12:03,220 --> 00:12:04,660 crime that was not published? 155 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:06,200 No, I did not. 156 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:08,120 But you did read the article. 157 00:12:09,130 --> 00:12:11,970 I try to keep abreast of everything we publish. 158 00:12:12,210 --> 00:12:13,149 I see. 159 00:12:13,150 --> 00:12:18,190 So it's fair to characterize you as an exceptionally well -informed individual. 160 00:12:19,070 --> 00:12:20,950 I feel it's my obligation. 161 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:26,510 Mrs. Pinchon, I imagine that in the course of running a major newspaper like 162 00:12:26,510 --> 00:12:30,890 Los Angeles Tribune, you must have an awful lot of very important decisions to 163 00:12:30,890 --> 00:12:32,250 make every day. Is that correct? 164 00:12:32,630 --> 00:12:34,310 Yes, that is true. 165 00:12:34,650 --> 00:12:37,450 And you make them quickly and definitively. Certainly. 166 00:12:38,670 --> 00:12:42,570 Mrs. Finchon, I have to believe you have already formed an opinion in this case. 167 00:12:51,550 --> 00:12:53,470 Your Honor, I would like to... Excuse me. 168 00:12:54,570 --> 00:13:00,890 I have not formed an opinion about this case, and I don't think I should be 169 00:13:00,890 --> 00:13:04,530 rejected on the basis of being well -informed and decisive. 170 00:13:05,850 --> 00:13:10,390 On the contrary, I think my concern with events in this city should make me the 171 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:14,650 kind of a person that you would want to have serve on a jury. 172 00:13:15,630 --> 00:13:17,910 I think this is an area where we can make some progress. 173 00:13:18,370 --> 00:13:21,370 We just have to check on the wording in the old contract. Barney, as your legal 174 00:13:21,370 --> 00:13:24,550 counsel, I've got to tell you that the language in that contract is inadequate. 175 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:28,270 It violates Article 6 of the Basic Agreement. Article 6 is irrelevant at 176 00:13:28,270 --> 00:13:30,110 point. We have a court ruling on that. 177 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:31,810 We'll hold off on that for a second. 178 00:13:32,689 --> 00:13:36,710 I'm moving on now to subparagraph B. Arnie, that's an area that we're not 179 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:37,950 prepared to get into at this time. 180 00:13:38,210 --> 00:13:41,930 Well, did you get our memorandum on that? We're studying it. We have a 181 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:42,930 with section 7. 182 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:46,550 Just don't forget that those terms are superseded and replaced by the 183 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:47,670 prescribed in the preamble. 184 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:50,990 Gentlemen, isn't it time for our lunch break? 185 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:54,950 Well, Charlie, it's only 10 .15. 186 00:13:55,750 --> 00:14:00,170 Well, then, I'd like to propose that you guys talk this out over coffee. I want 187 00:14:00,170 --> 00:14:02,190 to go over some things with Mr. Lucas. 188 00:14:02,570 --> 00:14:06,110 It's against our policy to discuss substantive issues without benefit of 189 00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:07,110 counsel. 190 00:14:07,450 --> 00:14:11,550 If Mr. Hume promises to keep his hands in his pockets, I won't be afraid to be 191 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:12,509 along with him. 192 00:14:12,510 --> 00:14:15,250 Charlie, it's a very sticky legal question. Now, it could get into 193 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:17,070 If it does, you'll have a walkout on your hands. 194 00:14:17,450 --> 00:14:24,210 Listen, if you don't hear from us in an hour, call a guard and break 195 00:14:24,210 --> 00:14:25,210 in. 196 00:14:27,980 --> 00:14:32,260 Jesse David Dillard. Illegal entry, armed robbery, 15 years. 197 00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:36,860 And he's assigned to an exclusive interview with the prison cook. 198 00:14:37,380 --> 00:14:40,380 What would you have him write, Lou? How I spent my summer vacation? 199 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,840 Hector Sandoval. 200 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,960 Grand theft auto, assault on an officer, possession of heroin, 15 years. And 201 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,040 he's doing methods of squash cultivation. 202 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Leroy Michael Vallow. 203 00:14:56,060 --> 00:14:59,920 Murder, life, sentence. Don't you find discipline in the classroom a problem, 204 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,020 Lou? Oh, these guys are so happy to have a diversion. They'd sit there quietly 205 00:15:04,020 --> 00:15:06,640 for a half hour if I came in and did a tap dance. 206 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,900 I'd sit quietly for an hour to watch you tap dance. 207 00:15:10,580 --> 00:15:14,360 You're a nice guy, Lou. Going out to that prison, giving your time to help 208 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,179 guys out? 209 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:17,640 Nah, I'm just going out there to help them get started. 210 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,480 Why single me out? 211 00:15:20,060 --> 00:15:21,460 Rossi's been doing it for weeks. 212 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Belly. 213 00:15:25,530 --> 00:15:27,170 Okay, Rossi's being very nice. 214 00:15:27,690 --> 00:15:31,410 But it'd be so hard for you to go over and say that's a nice thing for you to 215 00:15:31,410 --> 00:15:32,410 do, Rossi. 216 00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:36,810 Yes. 217 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:43,450 So they've already assigned you to a case, huh? 218 00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:45,650 Armed robbery and assault. 219 00:15:46,530 --> 00:15:48,870 But I had to talk my way on to the jury. 220 00:15:49,170 --> 00:15:52,990 I gave my time to come down here. They wanted to boot me because I was too well 221 00:15:52,990 --> 00:15:53,990 informed. 222 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Have you been able to make any headway at all negotiating with the pressman? 223 00:15:58,980 --> 00:16:02,520 Yeah, except for a couple of details to be worked out. I think we've settled the 224 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,520 basic point. 225 00:16:03,740 --> 00:16:04,740 What's your secret? 226 00:16:05,620 --> 00:16:07,460 Keeping me out of the way? 227 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:10,940 No, in this case, I think it was keeping the lawyers out of it. 228 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,500 Oh. Can you do that? 229 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,120 Well, it looked like Lucas really wanted to talk. 230 00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:19,220 Listen, Mr. Pinchot, we really miss you. 231 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,180 Sounds like it. 232 00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:23,980 Mr. Hume, well done. 233 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Okay, you got a newspaper. Now, what are you going to put in it? 234 00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:37,520 Right now, if you use your best story as the lead, your banner headline is going 235 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,140 to say, Squash, the versatile vegetable. 236 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:45,700 Maybe you could talk about how the Tribune forms its editorial policy. 237 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Well, okay. 238 00:16:49,780 --> 00:16:56,460 After you take away the wire services and the other bureaus, We apply the same 239 00:16:56,460 --> 00:16:57,460 test you do. 240 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:03,440 The basic test of whether something is newsworthy is, does it affect our 241 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,300 readers? Like right now, what we want to know is what's happening at San Ysidro 242 00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:09,339 Prison that affects you. 243 00:17:09,940 --> 00:17:14,180 Man, you think the warden's going to let us tell what's really going on behind 244 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:15,180 these walls? 245 00:17:16,060 --> 00:17:17,260 Let's talk about that. 246 00:17:17,460 --> 00:17:18,920 I'd like this to be a discussion. 247 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,500 No, man, I'm sorry I interrupted you. Go ahead with your lecture. 248 00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:23,780 Hey, come on. 249 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,180 What about the rest of you? 250 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,220 Let's have a little give and take. 251 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:32,700 I never met a writer yet who wouldn't rather talk to Wright. 252 00:17:42,860 --> 00:17:43,860 I'll be back. 253 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,820 That guard is there for your protection. 254 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,580 I don't need any protection. 255 00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:50,580 When you're on these grounds, you're my responsibility. 256 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:53,060 Look, those guys are sitting there like zombies. 257 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:55,900 I waive your responsibility, okay? 258 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:58,240 I'll even put it in writing. 259 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,140 Now, that is not the point. 260 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:09,820 All right. 261 00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:11,140 All right. 262 00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:13,720 I'll see what I can do. 263 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,140 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 264 00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:21,300 So what's the catch? 265 00:18:21,630 --> 00:18:24,530 Catch is that you guys are running out of excuses for not opening up. 266 00:18:24,790 --> 00:18:27,370 You got yourselves a newspaper, and you got it on your own terms. 267 00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:29,610 You mean Big Ben's gone for the whole class? 268 00:18:29,930 --> 00:18:30,930 Right. 269 00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:32,430 So what's on your mind? 270 00:18:33,310 --> 00:18:35,950 Hey, man, can you call my old lady? My brother, I have money. Give me one, you 271 00:18:35,950 --> 00:18:36,849 cop, it's a grand. 272 00:18:36,850 --> 00:18:38,650 Hold it, you guys. No way. 273 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:41,510 Hey, wait a minute. Can't you just slip the letter in the box for me? Oh, come 274 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:44,230 on. Lighten up, will you? We're not here to run errands for you guys. 275 00:18:44,510 --> 00:18:45,590 I thought you were cool. 276 00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:47,690 Are we going to work tonight or not? 277 00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:50,990 Okay. So we got ourselves a newspaper. 278 00:18:51,210 --> 00:18:53,150 Now, how heavy is the warden gonna sit on it? 279 00:18:53,390 --> 00:18:54,970 Well, we'll have to work under his guidelines. 280 00:18:55,690 --> 00:18:58,810 Yeah, you can forget it, because the warden don't want nobody to hear the 281 00:18:59,230 --> 00:19:02,170 Oh, man, Jimmy's right, you know. I mean, the man has his own version of the 282 00:19:02,170 --> 00:19:05,450 truth. And I tell you, it's nothing like what's really going down in this hall. 283 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:09,730 Your version ain't what's going down, either. Oh, man, don't start singing 284 00:19:09,730 --> 00:19:10,730 same old song. 285 00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:11,910 It ain't no song. 286 00:19:12,670 --> 00:19:16,010 Everyone knows that the blacks run the prison, and the whites ain't got nothing 287 00:19:16,010 --> 00:19:16,709 to say. 288 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:18,630 Hey, man, you know, you speak for your own mouth, okay? 289 00:19:19,230 --> 00:19:21,530 I mean, these guys, they don't run my life in this joint. 290 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:25,110 Ain't that right, Leroy? 291 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:28,610 Hey, come on, guys. 292 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:30,510 I think things are getting a little out of hand. 293 00:19:31,090 --> 00:19:32,090 Hold it, Rozzy. 294 00:19:32,550 --> 00:19:34,810 This sure beats the hell out of the versatile vegetable. 295 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:40,870 What can you say? You know, you just... I mean, you just don't feel like you're 296 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:41,930 ever going to get caught, you know? 297 00:19:42,650 --> 00:19:45,690 I mean, well, you just don't. 298 00:19:45,930 --> 00:19:47,450 It's... Meh. 299 00:19:48,140 --> 00:19:52,520 Anybody tells you that they didn't do what they got him in here for is a liar. 300 00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:56,380 Because if they didn't do that thing, then they did something before that they 301 00:19:56,380 --> 00:19:57,380 got away with. 302 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,900 How do you feel about being in prison? 303 00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:02,120 I ain't that crazy about it. 304 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,820 Come on, be straight, man. All right, man, punish me for what I did. Put me in 305 00:20:06,820 --> 00:20:11,200 jail, take away my freedom, but don't force me to join a gang to survive. 306 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,560 Get a knife stuck at me in the child line. 307 00:20:13,820 --> 00:20:15,980 Have to fight off guys trying to rape me. 308 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,520 The bottom line, it ain't safe here. 309 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,120 Now, if we write that, you gonna get it printed? 310 00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:28,820 I was down at the courthouse looking for Councilman Garber's divorce here. I 311 00:20:28,820 --> 00:20:30,580 hear his wife has some 8x10 glossies. 312 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,700 Donovan, she's in the middle of an amusing, innocent anecdote. 313 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,840 I'm sorry. I heard they were colorblind. 314 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:38,800 Anyhow, we run smack into Mrs. Pinchot. 315 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,160 Oh, my God. Don't tell me that she's Mrs. Garber's mystery witness. 316 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:46,080 She's on jury duty. I think we picked the wrong person to tell this to. 317 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:50,960 Can we come in if we promise not to chew too loud? 318 00:20:51,940 --> 00:20:52,940 Yeah, sure. Come on. 319 00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:58,500 Mr. Billy went in this morning. 320 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:01,320 Well, I didn't see the assignment sheet. I'll get to it this afternoon. 321 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,400 The only way to get Lou to read what you wrote these days is to knock off a 322 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,400 liquor store. 323 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,900 Those the assignments from your class? 324 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,680 Any potential competition there? 325 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,220 Some are not that bad, and some are really bad. 326 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:14,620 We'll pull them into ship. 327 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,180 I hope you and Rossi don't forget where you got your start. 328 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Don't worry. The trip will get a lot out of this. 329 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:22,760 I have Rossi doing an interview with one of the prisoners that I think will turn 330 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,280 out to be something really special. 331 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Oh, good. 332 00:21:26,020 --> 00:21:27,560 Something for the convict's corner. 333 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,980 What's the most difficult adjustment you've had to make? 334 00:21:38,410 --> 00:21:39,750 Here's a work program. 335 00:21:40,010 --> 00:21:46,750 That's pretty good here You feel enough is being offered in that area 336 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:50,490 What do you think 337 00:21:50,490 --> 00:21:57,490 Okay That's this it's good 338 00:21:57,490 --> 00:22:03,510 stuff of the weeks that could have enough for a paragraph Yeah, I'm sorry 339 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:06,790 want to get someone to talk a lot in here. You've got to get someone who's 340 00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:07,790 arrived 341 00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:09,860 Why's that? 342 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,900 Most guys, when they first get here, the first thing they do is talk a lot, 343 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:22,000 chatter. They try to talk themselves into believing that this ain't tearing 344 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,000 up inside. 345 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Then what? 346 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:27,440 Then they settle down. 347 00:22:28,420 --> 00:22:32,560 You learn that if you want to stay alive in prison, you got to listen. 348 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,520 Who do you owe it up to? 349 00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:39,290 For a few guys, it ain't bad. 350 00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,750 They fight the same thing. 351 00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:45,790 Don't you have to talk to somebody? 352 00:22:48,610 --> 00:22:49,610 I got a wife. 353 00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:52,350 My mom's still alive. 354 00:22:53,150 --> 00:22:55,910 If something happens I want to talk about, I talk to them. 355 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:58,110 In my head. 356 00:22:58,730 --> 00:23:00,530 I share everything with them. 357 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:02,870 In my head. 358 00:23:05,010 --> 00:23:07,010 And you get to see them on visiting days? 359 00:23:09,610 --> 00:23:10,610 And that's the worst. 360 00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:12,790 Why? Why is that the worst? 361 00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:16,890 When they come, I can't say nothing. 362 00:23:17,150 --> 00:23:19,550 I got so much to say that I choke on it. 363 00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:21,550 And look, I'm sorry. 364 00:23:21,850 --> 00:23:27,930 I know this is terrible, but... I'm just not with it today. I got other things 365 00:23:27,930 --> 00:23:28,930 on my mind. 366 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:30,430 What's that? 367 00:23:31,330 --> 00:23:34,930 You know that guy, Chris Parsons? The white dude in our class? 368 00:23:35,310 --> 00:23:36,350 Sure, sure, yeah. 369 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,850 They found him hanging by his neck in his cell this morning. 370 00:23:44,550 --> 00:23:45,550 Killed himself. 371 00:23:46,330 --> 00:23:51,250 What I'm trying to tell you is this place can really mess a person up. 372 00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:59,190 What's up, guys? 373 00:23:59,230 --> 00:24:02,250 Hey, you know, I've just been reading Rossi's prison piece. 374 00:24:02,530 --> 00:24:03,530 What do you think? 375 00:24:03,690 --> 00:24:07,810 Well, the last thing I ever expected was to find myself feeling sympathy for the 376 00:24:07,810 --> 00:24:10,110 guy. Kind of sneaks up on you, doesn't it? Yeah. 377 00:24:10,410 --> 00:24:12,810 This J .D. is one of the more articulate guys down there. 378 00:24:13,230 --> 00:24:14,870 You think he's a real bright person? 379 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:18,410 Oh, I think so. I think he might have something going for him when he gets 380 00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:19,529 What might be? 381 00:24:19,530 --> 00:24:22,650 Well, he served three out of 15 years for armed robbery and assault. 382 00:24:22,930 --> 00:24:24,750 He'll be eligible for release in two more years. 383 00:24:25,050 --> 00:24:26,410 Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. 384 00:24:26,970 --> 00:24:27,970 Just a second, please. 385 00:24:28,850 --> 00:24:30,750 Lou, I think you may want to take this. 386 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:31,909 Who is it? 387 00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:32,910 Mr. Tucker. 388 00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:35,470 He's very upset about Rossi's article. Why? 389 00:24:35,710 --> 00:24:37,190 J .D.'s up there on assault? 390 00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:38,470 Yeah. 391 00:24:38,610 --> 00:24:40,050 Mr. Tucker was the victim. 392 00:24:45,290 --> 00:24:48,990 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A andE. 393 00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:51,670 Lou Grant. 394 00:24:53,530 --> 00:24:57,990 Mr. Tucker, I'm sorry if the article stirred up any bad memories for you. 395 00:24:58,370 --> 00:24:59,370 They're not memories. 396 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:01,010 It's day -to -day reality. 397 00:25:02,060 --> 00:25:04,320 Three years had gone by and it seemed like it happened yesterday. 398 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,740 The Tribune did not intend to cause you any further pain. 399 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,980 I shouldn't have been surprised by that article. 400 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,720 The victim of a crime is always an insignificant detail. 401 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,640 Would you tell me what Jesse Diller did to you? 402 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,520 He was right there with the gun, standing. 403 00:25:23,540 --> 00:25:24,780 My wife was hysterical. 404 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,500 I could hear her trying to breathe. 405 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,300 He was standing right there with the gun, pointing right at me. 406 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,020 He's one of those cheap guys, you know? 407 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,180 The kind that you never know what a damn thing's gonna hit. 408 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,340 He wasn't convicted of assault with intent to kill. Look, I don't give a 409 00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:41,360 what he was convicted of. 410 00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:44,580 Now, you let him talk. Why don't you be quiet and let me talk? 411 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,560 Look, I want to tell you what he did to my life. 412 00:25:49,340 --> 00:25:52,000 I'm not talking about the radio, the television, or the stereo, or the money 413 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,679 that he took. 414 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,820 No, I'm not talking about that. 415 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:57,620 I'm talking about shaking so bad that I can't get in my car to drive to work. 416 00:25:57,940 --> 00:25:59,920 I'm talking about taking pills at night to go to sleep. 417 00:26:00,430 --> 00:26:01,830 Keeping a handgun on my pillow. 418 00:26:02,110 --> 00:26:03,470 Turning my home into a fortress. 419 00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:09,530 I'm talking about a feeling that I haven't been able to shake. 420 00:26:13,090 --> 00:26:16,090 A feeling that I was a coward that night, that my wife thought so too. 421 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:19,930 Have you been able to talk to her about this? 422 00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:22,230 We're not together anymore. 423 00:26:24,270 --> 00:26:26,090 Mr. Tucker, I am so sorry. 424 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,340 I know people are going to read that article and they're going to be 425 00:26:29,380 --> 00:26:31,720 what's a guy like that doing behind bars? Well, I can tell them. 426 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,500 I know this isn't any consolation, but Jesse Dillard did receive a very stiff 427 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,540 sentence and he's serving it in a maximum security prison. 428 00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:40,940 I know that. 429 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:43,540 And I know I'm out of line by blaming you. 430 00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:45,980 And I'm sorry. 431 00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:48,620 But he's going to serve his time, right? 432 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:50,520 Three, five years or whatever. 433 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,820 He's going to pay his dues, right? 434 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,400 That's right. 435 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,200 And it's going to be all over for him. 436 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,480 But it's not quite over for me yet. 437 00:27:00,460 --> 00:27:01,460 And it may never be. 438 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,080 You see, Miss Newman, you can shorten a prisoner's sentence, but not the 439 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,080 victim's. 440 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,840 Are you going to tell Charlie about it? 441 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,040 I don't know. He looks kind of busy. 442 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,080 May I have a minute of your time? 443 00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:27,680 Better be important. I'm in the middle of a cheese dance. 444 00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:36,120 What would you say if I told you that we could get Leo Shiro to work here 445 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,120 at the Tribune? 446 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,320 I'd say the post must have folded. Why else would they let him go? 447 00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:43,720 It's the other way around. He's not happy there. 448 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,440 He feels cut off from access to the top people. 449 00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:50,280 He'd like a little more autonomy and somebody to say, nice job, Lee, once or 450 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,139 twice a week. 451 00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:52,480 I could take Monday and Wednesday. 452 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,020 Well, the Times is going to make him an offer, so I think you better make a move 453 00:27:57,020 --> 00:27:58,020 on it. 454 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,500 How do you know all that? The lady that I've been seeing is a good friend of 455 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:02,500 Lee's wife. 456 00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:07,560 Normally, this would have to go through Mrs. Pinchot. 457 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,500 Well, when are you going to be speaking to her next? 458 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,340 Not for nearly three hours, by which time Lee will probably be slipping into 459 00:28:16,340 --> 00:28:17,580 New York Times sweatshirt. 460 00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:19,780 Isn't it going to be expensive? 461 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Can we afford not to find out? 462 00:28:30,990 --> 00:28:31,990 Charlie Hume. 463 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:34,630 Yeah. Oh, fine. 464 00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:36,970 No, no, I'm in L .A. 465 00:28:37,390 --> 00:28:41,790 Hey, listen, let me get to the point. I hear by the grapevine that you're not 466 00:28:41,790 --> 00:28:43,270 happy at the post. 467 00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:46,110 It is. 468 00:28:46,750 --> 00:28:49,010 How would you like to come work for the Tribune? 469 00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:51,930 Oh, really? 470 00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:54,730 How much did the Times offer you? 471 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:58,350 Boy, they're rich. 472 00:28:58,990 --> 00:29:03,650 Well, we can't quite match that. I mean, maybe, you know, we might be able to 473 00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:05,570 come close, but we can't offer you that much. 474 00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:12,710 However, what we can offer you is a little more autonomy, a chance to work 475 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:18,730 a fine staff, and a working environment with direct access to the top people. 476 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:25,390 People who wouldn't be above saying, nice job, Lee, once or twice a week. 477 00:29:26,350 --> 00:29:27,350 Yeah. 478 00:29:27,630 --> 00:29:28,630 Yeah. 479 00:29:34,269 --> 00:29:36,750 Well, that was a hell of a lot of fun, Lassie. 480 00:29:38,650 --> 00:29:39,650 What did I do? 481 00:29:41,150 --> 00:29:45,250 I just had to take the heat for you from a guy who was brutalized by one of your 482 00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:46,250 convicts. 483 00:29:47,290 --> 00:29:48,850 They're not my convicts. 484 00:29:49,270 --> 00:29:52,790 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've read your piece. I've heard you talk about your class. 485 00:29:53,230 --> 00:29:58,510 So I already know that all prisoners are just sensitive human beings mistreated 486 00:29:58,510 --> 00:29:59,510 by the system. 487 00:30:00,270 --> 00:30:03,370 Meanwhile, the people of this city are afraid to walk the streets at night. 488 00:30:04,450 --> 00:30:05,530 Jeez, Rossi. 489 00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:07,430 Hold it. 490 00:30:12,050 --> 00:30:16,530 I don't feel any safer in this city than anybody else, all right? 491 00:30:18,330 --> 00:30:22,030 I've seen people right after they've been mugged, mugged for the change in 492 00:30:22,030 --> 00:30:24,850 pockets. I've seen what people look like after shootings. 493 00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:26,690 I've been there when the bodies came up. 494 00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:33,030 I don't appreciate being branded as someone who is unsympathetic to the 495 00:30:33,030 --> 00:30:34,770 of crimes just because of my work in prisons. 496 00:30:35,170 --> 00:30:39,430 I don't think depriving these guys of a few basic rights makes our streets any 497 00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:40,430 safer. 498 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:47,610 I've got to write my story. 499 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,280 around this, guys. 500 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000 That's the way it is. 501 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,160 One won't let. 502 00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:12,340 Uh -uh. 503 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:13,500 We won't let. 504 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,440 We won't. We won't. 505 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,620 Everything in there is the truth, man. 506 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,960 You think it's the truth? 507 00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:22,500 You calling me a liar? 508 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,980 No. No. 509 00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:29,260 And every word in there may prove to be true. And probably is. 510 00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:30,820 But we can't print it. 511 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,620 Not in the edition that's coming out tomorrow. 512 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,100 What kind of jack fuck are you giving us? 513 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,240 Look, this is a hell of a good job of investigating. 514 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,320 There's a lot of stuff in here that's dynamite. There's a lot of stuff that's 515 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,700 opinion. That's the stuff that's got to come out. That's your opinion. 516 00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:51,040 What you're saying is that Chris Parsons was murdered, that his suicide was a 517 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,020 phony, and that one of the prison gangs is responsible. 518 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:55,580 We're saying that because it's true. 519 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,200 How do you know? 520 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,280 I know. 521 00:31:58,460 --> 00:32:00,060 All right, tell me what you know. 522 00:32:00,260 --> 00:32:03,580 All right. And leave out that he feels, he thinks, and he hurts. 523 00:32:09,740 --> 00:32:14,620 Now, let's look at the facts that we do have that can be confirmed by another 524 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:17,900 source or by physical evidence, because that's the stuff that we can print. 525 00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:20,740 Chris was murdered. 526 00:32:21,060 --> 00:32:24,100 You can't say that. Well, he did, ain't he? Can we say that? 527 00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:26,960 Yes. But if you're going to say he was murdered, you've got to be able to prove 528 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,960 it. He was murdered. 529 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,940 Man, we got the interview from the doctor over there. 530 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Okay. Okay, let's start piecing this together. 531 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,900 Now, Chris was working in the infirmary. And bringing out pills for the gang. 532 00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:38,760 And we know there was an unexplained pill shortage. 533 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,620 How do we know? Because I got a statement right there from the doctor 534 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:45,940 that was so. All right. That's a fact. 535 00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:47,220 Hey! 536 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:51,400 Hey, another thing, you know, everyone knows that that gang controls the pill 537 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360 traffic in this joint because we've all bought pills from them. 538 00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:57,460 Is anyone willing to testify to that? 539 00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,100 I will. 540 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:20,340 Four guys saw Chris asleep about 15 minutes before he's supposed to hung 541 00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:21,420 himself. Yeah. 542 00:33:21,780 --> 00:33:26,360 And at the time that Chris died, four gang members were not in the place that 543 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,060 they were supposed to be. And I got two guys that'll swear to that. 544 00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:32,980 It doesn't make anyone a murderer. 545 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,560 Now, Chris was gonna blow the whistle on that gang, see? So they killed him. And 546 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,320 that's the way it went down. 547 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,240 Come on, J .D., you can't make those accusations. 548 00:33:42,750 --> 00:33:45,530 You're not a prosecutor, you're not a judge, and besides, you can't prove it. 549 00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:48,950 So what are we going to do? 550 00:33:50,110 --> 00:33:55,670 What you do is lay out a series of events, a series of facts that point to 551 00:33:55,670 --> 00:34:00,070 Chris's alleged participation in pill trafficking with the gang that allegedly 552 00:34:00,070 --> 00:34:01,670 controls the pill traffic here. 553 00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:04,370 When you get that, we'll take a look at it. 554 00:34:04,790 --> 00:34:06,630 Maybe we'll have something we can print. 555 00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:12,280 Has anything important happened that I should know about? 556 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,719 Important? 557 00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:18,159 Well, um, ad line is up about 2 % this week. 558 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:21,739 Suburban edition was a half an hour late because of traffic. 559 00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:24,020 I already told you that I settled with the pressman. 560 00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:29,600 And oh yeah, I hired Pulitzer Prize winning Lee Oshiro away from the post. 561 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:33,440 You say the suburban edition was half an hour late. 562 00:34:35,509 --> 00:34:36,509 Mrs. Pinchard. 563 00:34:36,730 --> 00:34:39,030 Mr. Hume, you're wonderful. 564 00:34:39,650 --> 00:34:41,370 Tell me all about O'Shea. 565 00:34:42,489 --> 00:34:47,190 Those guys showed a lot of initiative, Ross. There'd be a hell of a story 566 00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:48,168 outside the prison. 567 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:50,370 Yeah, sure, but there's no way the warden's going to print it. 568 00:34:50,590 --> 00:34:54,010 Well, let's see what they get. If it sounds journalistic, I'll take it up 569 00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:55,010 Gotham. 570 00:34:55,830 --> 00:34:58,170 Boy, it was really touch and go there for a while. Did you feel it? 571 00:34:58,570 --> 00:35:01,530 There were times when I was missing a guard, if that's what you mean. 572 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:03,630 Well, first edition comes out tomorrow. 573 00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:06,840 Congratulations. Buy an orange soda. 574 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:08,520 Why not? You're driving. 575 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,600 What do you think, man? 576 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,320 I don't know. 577 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,740 Those dudes took a lot of the fire out of the story, you know. 578 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,420 Yeah, but they left a lot of fire in it, too. 579 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,360 A lot of good that's going to do us. 580 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,940 No one's ever going to read it. 581 00:35:32,650 --> 00:35:35,450 Keep us coming out tomorrow with the same old stuff. 582 00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:38,290 Not exactly. 583 00:35:40,570 --> 00:35:41,570 What do you mean? 584 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:45,210 Look, I'm the editor of this movie, right? 585 00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:48,010 Then I say what goes in it, right? 586 00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:51,030 So I sent the story on down to the print shop. 587 00:35:51,970 --> 00:35:53,750 Hey, what are you saying, man? 588 00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:57,890 Are you telling me that we're going to print that? It's the truth. 589 00:35:58,509 --> 00:36:02,930 Every word in that story is absolutely true. Yeah, man, I know it's the truth. 590 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:04,610 But there's going to be some trouble. 591 00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:06,770 Maybe not. 592 00:36:07,490 --> 00:36:08,490 Hey, man. 593 00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:12,670 That ain't exactly no interview with the prison cook, you know. I know that. 594 00:36:12,930 --> 00:36:15,370 If people want to respond to that, you know. 595 00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:17,170 I know that. 596 00:36:18,130 --> 00:36:19,470 Then there's going to be some trouble. 597 00:36:20,110 --> 00:36:21,110 Ain't there? 598 00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:31,270 will continue in a moment here on A andE. 599 00:36:36,730 --> 00:36:39,050 Okay, Walter, you've got a deal. 600 00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:42,790 At work at a quarter to nine, Charlie? 601 00:36:43,090 --> 00:36:44,850 What'd you do, sleep at the paper last night? 602 00:36:45,590 --> 00:36:49,050 Have you heard about the possibility of a paper shortage? 603 00:36:49,330 --> 00:36:50,570 No, is there going to be a paper shortage? 604 00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:51,870 It looks that way. 605 00:36:52,450 --> 00:36:54,850 I don't see why that's caused for dancing in the halls. 606 00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:56,550 Unless... Unless... 607 00:36:56,990 --> 00:37:00,790 Our managing editor just got off the phone with a paper distributor in 608 00:37:01,010 --> 00:37:06,210 Who is going to deliver a stockpile to our Orange County warehouse by the end 609 00:37:06,210 --> 00:37:07,109 next week? 610 00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:08,710 A three month supply. 611 00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:11,850 Nice journey. 612 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,540 I was in the criminal courts building and I thought I'd look in on a trial. 613 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,400 The public defender was making the final argument. 614 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,940 Imagine what it's like trying to plead your case with Mrs. Pinchon sitting 615 00:37:44,940 --> 00:37:45,940 on the jury. 616 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,080 I don't have to imagine. 617 00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:50,000 Okay, I think the lead's a lot tighter now. 618 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,138 Yeah, good. 619 00:37:52,140 --> 00:37:52,959 Is that it? 620 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,960 That's it. 621 00:37:56,420 --> 00:37:57,800 Nice to have you back at the Trib. 622 00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:02,900 I told you I was only going out there to help the prisoners get their papers 623 00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:05,090 started. First edition came out this morning. 624 00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:09,290 Hmm. So even as we speak, a kid on a bike is riding up and down the aisles 625 00:38:09,290 --> 00:38:10,750 tossing papers into the cells, huh? 626 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:15,750 Lou, I just got off the phone with San Ysidro. How are we selling? 627 00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:17,610 Lou, they pulled the paper. 628 00:38:18,770 --> 00:38:23,150 Why? I don't know. Something about an inflammatory story and a fight in the 629 00:38:23,150 --> 00:38:26,430 prison yard. Six guys are in the infirmary. The warden has the prison on 630 00:38:26,430 --> 00:38:27,910 alert and the paper shut down. 631 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:29,790 Damn. 632 00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:32,130 Handle things for a while. 633 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120 Things took kind of a bad turn out at San Ysidro this morning. 634 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,460 There was a fight in the prison yard. It has to do with the newspaper shutting 635 00:38:42,460 --> 00:38:43,299 it down. 636 00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,520 It's too bad. What happened? 637 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,240 I don't know. It's hard to tell from here. I want to go out there. 638 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,540 You've been going out there? 639 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,480 I don't mean after work. I mean now. I might be able to get back for the budget 640 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,480 meeting. 641 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,060 And you might not. 642 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,820 Donovan can cover for me. Oh, that's very nice. 643 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,220 But Donovan has been covering for you. 644 00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:11,290 I'm sorry if I've been distracted. 645 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:15,430 Look, Charlie, I've developed a rapport with some of the guys. 646 00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:19,750 They've started to trust me a little since I got the paper for them. Now they 647 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:21,310 may be losing it, and I feel responsible. 648 00:39:22,510 --> 00:39:26,790 Lou, you know as well as I do, you can't be city editor of the L .A. Tribune and 649 00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:28,790 the San Ysidro Bulletin. 650 00:39:30,050 --> 00:39:32,450 I think we're at the point where you're going to have to choose. 651 00:39:35,590 --> 00:39:38,350 Charlie, I'm a part of what's happening out there at that prison today. 652 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,920 Let me choose tomorrow. 653 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,100 I didn't just shut the newspaper down. I shut everything down. 654 00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:49,160 The programs, the shops. 655 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,820 Something like this happens. 656 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,020 And every little bit of progress we've got going comes to a complete stop. 657 00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:56,860 What happened exactly? 658 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,420 Word that the bulletin was printing a story on Chris Parsons' death hit the 659 00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:03,580 grapevine. Wait a minute. I didn't okay that story. 660 00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:04,820 You didn't? No. 661 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,160 Here it is. 662 00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,100 After breakfast in between Sallyport 4 and the exercise yard, members of the 663 00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,900 black prison gang attacked the leader of the Mexican gang. 664 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,040 Now my prison's on riot alert. 665 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,620 In other words, the story got around without the newspaper. 666 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,920 Right. 667 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,460 So the story was going to spread anyway, right? 668 00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:33,920 I don't think you can blame the guys on the paper for that. No. No. 669 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:38,260 But they were irresponsible enough to print that story. 670 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,040 Now, how can I believe that they can handle a prison newspaper? 671 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,760 Oh, listen. 672 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,520 There's no way those prisoners are ever going to release a story you don't want 673 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,340 them to. We're done with them to even try. 674 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:50,780 This is a good story. 675 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,980 I'd be proud to run this story in my paper. 676 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,560 It's no good, Lou. 677 00:40:55,060 --> 00:40:58,360 If I give them back the paper, then I am stuck with a potential confrontation 678 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,440 every week when it comes out. 679 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,920 I think you have a potential safety valve here. Maybe if you'd had it this 680 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:07,060 it would have stopped those rumors. You don't know that. 681 00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:09,930 No, I'm just suggesting what's possible. 682 00:41:10,270 --> 00:41:11,650 You know better than I do. 683 00:41:12,010 --> 00:41:14,870 I'm glad you give me a little credit for knowing my own prison. 684 00:41:15,250 --> 00:41:19,410 Hey, I give you a lot of credit for knowing your own prison. 685 00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:21,150 What do you think? 686 00:41:23,570 --> 00:41:24,570 It's possible. 687 00:41:25,330 --> 00:41:27,350 Then does the newspaper deserve another chance? 688 00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:33,870 Well, Mrs. 689 00:41:34,270 --> 00:41:36,090 Pinchon, when were you sprung? 690 00:41:37,290 --> 00:41:38,290 Just now. 691 00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:43,350 It's so long since I've seen a newspaper. All I wanted to do was catch 692 00:41:43,730 --> 00:41:45,470 How did the deliberation go? 693 00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:47,170 It was terrible. 694 00:41:47,810 --> 00:41:50,290 What, you think maybe you made the wrong decision? 695 00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:55,710 We made the right decision. We found that young man, James Clark, guilty. 696 00:41:56,130 --> 00:41:57,130 Ah. 697 00:41:57,430 --> 00:42:01,070 I'm afraid I find mercy easier to dispense than justice. 698 00:42:01,630 --> 00:42:05,090 Still, I'm glad you encouraged me to go. 699 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,560 things here. 700 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:14,300 As a matter of fact, I authorized a fairly big paper purchase. 701 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,960 I would have held off, but the price was irresistible. 702 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:21,160 You bought a paper? 703 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:28,380 No. I bought paper, newsprint, at $10 a ton less than we've been paying. 704 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,360 Do we need paper? 705 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,540 Aren't we due for three months' worth in a couple of weeks? 706 00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:37,580 Well, if there's a lumberman's strike. 707 00:42:38,010 --> 00:42:39,350 What lumberman strike? 708 00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:42,870 Walter Leclerc had an inside track on some information. 709 00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:44,410 Walter Leclerc. 710 00:42:45,070 --> 00:42:50,750 Whenever there is discontent in the lumber industry, Walter's on the phone 711 00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:51,890 news of a strike. 712 00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:53,990 Well, there might be a strike. 713 00:42:54,270 --> 00:42:58,050 And it was such a good deal. How much? $3 .35 a ton. 714 00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:01,810 And, um, if there is no strike? 715 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:07,110 If there is no strike, we have... 716 00:43:07,370 --> 00:43:09,850 67 ,000 extra tons of newsprint. 717 00:43:11,090 --> 00:43:13,230 I hope you have a big garage. 718 00:43:14,410 --> 00:43:17,730 If you were working for me on the outside, I'd fire you for that. I don't 719 00:43:17,770 --> 00:43:18,770 man. Send us home. 720 00:43:18,830 --> 00:43:22,510 Hey, man, leave the man alone. I blew it. You blew it big, J .D. I didn't even 721 00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:24,150 know if Goffman was going to let us run anything. 722 00:43:24,590 --> 00:43:25,590 I think he was. 723 00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:27,130 He's an interesting guy. 724 00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:29,570 Might be worth an interview next issue. 725 00:43:32,090 --> 00:43:33,090 Next issue? 726 00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:35,490 We got a paper? 727 00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:36,830 You got a paper. 728 00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:38,580 All right! 729 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,020 All right! 730 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,360 Hey. 731 00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:45,940 Oh, listen. 732 00:43:46,780 --> 00:43:49,800 This is my last session with you. 733 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,920 I'm sorry. 734 00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:55,620 There's no way I can come up here anymore without it interfering with my 735 00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:56,620 the Trib. 736 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,220 Maybe Ross will be back next week. 737 00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:01,620 I'm sorry. 738 00:44:02,740 --> 00:44:03,860 Same old song. 739 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,960 Bye -bye, baby. 740 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,320 Hey, what you want, Jack Hunter? You want somebody's promise? 741 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,300 You want a five -year, 50 ,000 -mile warranty? 742 00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:16,580 Look, we got one more issue. 743 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,200 We got one more chance to get a real story past the warden. 744 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:26,180 I don't know about you guys, but as far as I'm concerned, it's Christmas, and 745 00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:28,100 this dude just came down the chimney. 746 00:44:29,380 --> 00:44:32,980 Now, before I die of happiness, I just have one problem. 747 00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:35,640 What are we going to put in this rag? 748 00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:36,860 Anybody got any ideas? 749 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,160 Well, you know, somebody's cutting off the cookie supply. 750 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,500 We don't get half of what the monthly alarm money is. 751 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:48,240 How about that? 752 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:52,520 The guys at C -Block ain't had hot water in their showers for over two weeks 753 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,520 now. 754 00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:56,380 What do you think, Lou? Is it cookies or cold showers? 755 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,320 It's your paper. 756 00:45:00,620 --> 00:45:02,540 Till it turns into a pumpkin. 757 00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:06,380 Good luck, fellas. 758 00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:08,080 Keep me on the subscription list. 759 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,399 You got it. 760 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,400 Ain't got it. 761 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:17,000 I don't know about you, but I'd like to talk about contact business. 762 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:54,100 Frost puts fond memories of his wife aside to search for a missing girl on 763 00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:55,520 andE Mystery Movie tonight. 764 00:45:55,780 --> 00:46:00,380 Now it's a top SWAT team, but will a rookie cop muster the courage to kill? 765 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:04,640 Jan Michael Vincent stars in Police Story, next on A andE.